demo cup landed on the clean bit

LiamArcher0403 · 10 Aug 2025, 05:44 UTC

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LiamArcher0403
Our FR10 carton demo avoids the printed seam. Our packed cartons don't. Can we screen actual samples before buying tooling?

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GabrielBell0627
Replying to LiamArcher0403

Yes. Send packed examples from your normal supply, including the seam and surface differences. An empty pristine box is a very cooperative customer. Ask them to show where every cup lands, not just that a box went up.

22 points
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LiamArcher0403
Replying to GabrielBell0627

They offered another empty sample. I'll ask for ours to go instead.

3 points
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JonasAli0198
Replying to LiamArcher0403

Don't dismiss the empty test completely. It can expose a bad seal cheaply. It just leaves you with the load, carton strength and intended movement still to assess.

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IsaacBaker0520
Replying to LiamArcher0403

Our first samples got taped over the damaged bits before dispatch. Someone was being helpful, and accidentally sent the supplier a carton we never handle. Whoever packs yours needs to know why you're sending the awkward ones.

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AlexAdams0124
Replying to LiamArcher0403

Ask them to identify the trial cups so replacements can match later.

21 points
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LiamArcher0403
Replying to IsaacBaker0520

Isaac, I'll pack them. AlexAdams, requested cup details with the test offer. No order yet.

15 points
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AlexCell
Replying to LiamArcher0403

Is the proposed pickup position fixed relative to the carton, or are they assuming the cups can dodge each seam?

5 points
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JasperAbbott0029
Replying to AlexCell

That dodging bit worries me too. Our manual packing leaves labels in slightly different places... nothing dramatic, until you draw a cup right where the nicest sample has a blank patch.

17 points
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LiamArcher0403
Replying to AlexCell

Fixed pickup. They haven't allowed for different label positions. Added those to the sample selection.

15 points
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DavidBarnes0606
Replying to JonasAli0198

Use closed production cartons, because the flaps on our empty samples bowed differently from the filled ones

12 points
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JonasAli0198
Replying to DavidBarnes0606

David, agreed for the loaded assessment. I'm only defending an inexpensive first screen. No point paying for a movement trial if the proposed contact already leaks badly on the actual board.

7 points
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NaomiBarnes0593
Replying to LiamArcher0403

Do not let the sample list become one carton of each colour. Record which has the seam, label or board condition being checked. Otherwise a failure comes back as the blue one failed.

6 points
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ElenaBaker0514
Replying to LiamArcher0403

Who will deal with a carton the tool cannot pick? Worth asking before the quote grows, especially if one person is meant to cover packing as well.

20 points
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IsaacBaker0520
Replying to ElenaBaker0514

Elena's point cost us more time than changing cups. We had a reject position but nobody assigned to clear it, so packing eventually stopped with a beautifully organised queue of problems.

5 points
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LiamArcher0403
Replying to ElenaBaker0514

Elena, that would be our packer. They already cover two benches. Need that conversation before accepting the layout.

13 points
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LiamArcher0403
Replying to JonasAli0198

Supplier agreed to assess our packed samples. Thanks Jonas for splitting out the cheap first check. Movement trial still separate.

3 points
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NaomiBarnes0593
Replying to LiamArcher0403

What are they sending back from that first check: results per sample, or another video? Ask now while the sample identities are still in front of everyone.

9 points

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