Which face should our bracket inspection sheet use after unclamping?

JaneBennett0771 · 15 Jun 2025, 09:02 UTC

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JaneBennett0771
I am helping prepare the fixture handover for an FR10 bracket cell. The old check sheet measures from the fixture base, while the drawing locates the finished bracket from its mounting face. A few old results simply say 'low after release'. How should I set out the comparison so we can tell whether the bracket changed shape or the measurement reference changed? I understand the robot program better than this part of the paperwork.

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RachelArcher0435
Replying to JaneBennett0771

Sketch the two setups side by side. Put the actual contact faces on each sketch. 'Low' has quite a career when nobody writes down low relative to what.

20 points
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JaneBennett0771
Replying to RachelArcher0435

The in-fixture check touches the top of the upright. The released check uses the same indicator, but the bracket sits on a surface plate. I cannot find a sketch of how they support it there.

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RachelArcher0435
Replying to JaneBennett0771

Ask whoever made those readings to show you. The same indicator can report different things in different setups. Its familiarity doesn't rescue the comparison.

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EllaBarnes0555
Replying to JaneBennett0771

Which drawing revision are you trying to meet?

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JaneBennett0771
Replying to EllaBarnes0555

Revision D. The old check sheet cites B, so I have requested both drawings. I had only noticed the different supports before your question.

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JaneBennett0771
Replying to JaneBennett0771

B has arrived. The mounting-face datum is unchanged, but D adds a flatness requirement there. That makes me less comfortable with assuming the part sits flat after release.

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RachelArcher0435
Replying to JaneBennett0771

Have metrology define the released setup for D. You now have a specific question for them: how to establish that datum with the surface you actually have.

14 points
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FelixAdams0110
Replying to RachelArcher0435

Please get a photo of the support arrangement when they settle it. We had a fixture discussion derailed by everyone imagining a different bench setup, and the person holding the indicator thought we all knew. I certainly didn't.

15 points
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AaronArcher0349
Replying to JaneBennett0771

Do the old results identify individual brackets? I would struggle to pair before and after readings from a batch average.

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RachelArcher0435
Replying to RachelArcher0435

Jane, did the old operator manage to show you their released check? Curious whether the missing support sketch was the whole problem.

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JaneBennett0771
Replying to RachelArcher0435

They used a packing strip under one edge because some brackets rocked. The strip thickness wasn't recorded. Aaron, individual brackets are numbered on one sheet, but most results are batch summaries.

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JaneBennett0771
Replying to JaneBennett0771

Metrology has drafted the revision D inspection setup and wants a fresh numbered set. We are keeping the old sheets as background. I cannot use them to calculate how far the brackets moved when released.

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EllaBarnes0555
Replying to JaneBennett0771

Did the fresh set get measured? I'd like to hear whether that rocking mounting face shows up consistently.

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