The spacer pilot has no allowance for resetting the fixture

HarishBrooks0837 · 7 Nov 2025, 19:05 UTC

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HarishBrooks0837
I've timed our current spacer unloading and counted the operator visits, so this isn't just an arm-price daydream. Unfortunately my UR5e estimate still treats fixture reset as free. My colleague spotted it before I did and now doesn't trust the rest. Fair enough, but I'd rather measure one representative short order than argue over my spreadsheet again.

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SamBell0681
Replying to HarishBrooks0837

Would your colleague choose the short order with you? They may know which changeover causes trouble. I mean a normal order you both recognise, not the easiest spacer because it makes the demonstration finish nicely.

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HarishBrooks0837
Replying to SamBell0681

She chose an order with two spacer lengths. I was thinking one length for the first pilot. That's probably exactly why she should have a say.

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TobyBrooks0840
Replying to HarishBrooks0837

Two lengths makes sense if the job mix really changes lengths. Keep the simple single-length run too, as a comparison rather than the sales result.

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HarishBrooks0837
Replying to TobyBrooks0840

The mixed order is common enough. We have current manual timings for both lengths, including the fixture change. The proposed automation number has one changeover allowance copied across both.

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JaneChan1119
Replying to HarishBrooks0837

Ask the tooling designer which steps change between those lengths. A common allowance may turn out to be reasonable, but it needs a described task behind it. Who resets, checks and releases the fixture for use?

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SamBell0681
Replying to JaneChan1119

And if the setter is busy, count the waiting separately from the work. Our apprentice time looked slow once because the log included waiting for someone authorised to check the setup.

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TobyBrooks0840
Replying to SamBell0681

Sam, yes. Don't charge the robot for every minute a setter spends elsewhere, but don't pretend that wait disappears either.

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JaneChan1119
Replying to TobyBrooks0840

Toby, the distinction is useful for improvement. For the order completion comparison, Harish still needs the elapsed time the actual staffing arrangement produces.

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HarishBrooks0837
Replying to JaneChan1119

We have agreed to compare the single-length run and the mixed order. My colleague will keep handling time, setter work and waiting separate. The tooling designer still owes us the proposed reset steps, so no booked robot trial yet.

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SamBell0681
Replying to HarishBrooks0837

Thanks Jane, that explains why we need both figures. Harish, is your existing reset timing for the same operator and setter arrangement you expect to keep? Otherwise the comparison could improve just because the pilot gets extra people.

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