Why is the FR5 base standing where we change the fixture?

NinaAli0240 · 10 Jun 2025, 01:57 UTC

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NinaAli0240
Separate mill from my earlier FR10 question: this FR5 steel-blank proposal can approach the pocket with the illustrated tool, but its base occupies our fixture-change position. The designer says we can change fixtures from the other side. That side has the open door and a cabinet. Am I missing an obvious arrangement?

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DanielChen1174
Replying to NinaAli0240

Has the setter seen it? Other side is doing a lot of work there.

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NinaAli0240
Replying to DanielChen1174

He has. He says he cannot bring the lifting trolley alongside from that side, but the designer's drawing shows a fixture floating into place without the trolley.

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RachelBarnes0609
Replying to NinaAli0240

Can they include the trolley model? A plain measured outline would do for the first comparison. The fixture does not arrive by itself.

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NinaAli0240
Replying to RachelBarnes0609

Sent an outline with the handle and the fixture in its transport position. The designer is now asking whether we can use a smaller trolley, which feels like the problem changing owners.

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FelixChan1067
Replying to NinaAli0240

A different trolley could be a valid option, but the person responsible for that handling method needs to assess it. I would ask why moving the robot base has already been ruled out.

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DanielChen1174
Replying to FelixChan1067

Has it been ruled out, or just not drawn?

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NinaAli0240
Replying to DanielChen1174

Not drawn. Their first layout was copied from another installation. No one has compared another base position on our machine yet.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to NinaAli0240

I'd ask for two rough base options before detailed redesign. Include the full loaded tool on both; an easier trolley route is no use if the arm loses the rear pocket.

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RachelBarnes0609
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Keep the cabinet opening in that rough view too. I know, another rectangle. Still cheaper than another surprise.

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DanielChen1174
Replying to NinaAli0240

How often does this fixture come out?

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NinaAli0240
Replying to DanielChen1174

At most product changes, several times across a normal week. It is not an annual maintenance job we can plan around with half the bay empty.

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FelixChan1067
Replying to NinaAli0240

Then fixture handling belongs in the normal workflow comparison. I would also ask the setter what has to be disconnected, because access to the trolley does not guarantee access to those connections.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to NinaAli0240

Could the rack beside the bay move? I'm asking about floor space, not proposing you change the fixture handling before anyone checks it.

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NinaAli0240
Replying to AaronBaker0436

The rack can move, but it stores the next fixture and is filled from the aisle. Stores has suggested a position that keeps that route open; the new robot location still needs checking.

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RachelBarnes0609
Replying to NinaAli0240

Does the proposed tool in that check include the real fingers? You said illustrated tool in the opening and I wondered how settled it was.

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NinaAli0240
Replying to RachelBarnes0609

Body and fingers match the tooling proposal. The cable connector was omitted, though. I've sent its envelope before they check the alternate location.

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DanielChen1174
Replying to NinaAli0240

That connector has excellent timing.

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FelixChan1067
Replying to NinaAli0240

It is useful that you caught it before the comparison. Ask whoever owns the tool model to keep those service connections in it, so every layout reviewer receives the same assembly.

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NinaAli0240
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Alternate position now clears the trolley route in the layout, with the connector included. The rear-pocket approach is still under review. Thanks, Aaron, for getting us back to base options.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to NinaAli0240

You're welcome. Let the setter try the proposed trolley route on the floor plan before it acquires mounting holes.

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