The bracket pass was measured before the clamps came off

HenryBrooks0786 · 27 Dec 2025, 15:55 UTC

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HenryBrooks0786
Our FR10 proposal calls the old bracket trial a pass. The released check underneath says otherwise. What gives?

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NadiaCarter0987
Replying to HenryBrooks0786

Which check does the heading refer to, Henry? The fixture may have held the bracket in the intended position while the released piece still failed its drawing requirement.

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HenryBrooks0786
Replying to NadiaCarter0987

Heading says fixture trial passed. Sales copied that as bracket accepted. Same page has the released failure

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JuliaBaker0500
Replying to HenryBrooks0786

Ask them to change the summary. You don't need to prove the fixture useless to point out that the released bracket failed. Those are different claims, and a buyer shouldn't need to hunt underneath the headline to find the awkward one.

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EmmaBennett0724
Replying to HenryBrooks0786

Check what the released measurement used as its reference too. I've had a bracket reading taken from the bench while the drawing used the mounting face. A failure entry still needs an intelligible method.

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NadiaCarter0987
Replying to EmmaBennett0724

Emma, would you keep the failure visible while that method is being checked? I would not want an unanswered measurement question to revive the original acceptance claim.

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EmmaBennett0724
Replying to NadiaCarter0987

Yes, leave it visible. I'm asking what the reading means, not suggesting they rub it out.

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HenryBrooks0786
Replying to EmmaBennett0724

Quality has the method question. Sales has agreed bracket acceptance isn't established. Much better than arguing about the headline

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FarahBrown0939
Replying to HenryBrooks0786

Does the old sheet mention any later correction, Henry, or does it end at that released check?

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HenryBrooks0786
Replying to FarahBrown0939

Later pass in a separate column. No note about what happened between. That's another hole

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JuliaBaker0500
Replying to HenryBrooks0786

Put the gap beside that later number. I wouldn't let anyone turn it into either 'the fixture fixed it' or 'the operator always has to fix it'. You haven't got the route between the two results yet.

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NadiaCarter0987
Replying to HenryBrooks0786

For the current proposal, could quality and fabrication agree an observation that follows one identified bracket through fit-up, restraint, release and any further work? That would answer a more useful question than another round of editing the old heading.

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HenryBrooks0786
Replying to NadiaCarter0987

They've agreed those stages for a current trial. No trial result yet. Thanks Julia for the wording on that gap

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FarahBrown0939
Replying to HenryBrooks0786

Will the person doing any correction add their note directly, rather than somebody guessing it from the final inspection time?

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