What would make a small unloading pilot worth approving?

BenChan1066 · 4 Sept 2026, 15:22 UTC

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BenChan1066
I obtained an FR10 package quote for unloading moulded mounting blocks, then treated it as the cost of a pilot. My colleague pointed out that our fixture is only a sketch and her operator would spend time helping. How can I bound the trial so we can judge the idea fairly?

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MinaBrooks0859
Replying to BenChan1066

Budget the missing work before debating the robot price. A fixture sketch is not a free fixture, however little ink it used.

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BenChan1066
Replying to MinaBrooks0859

I have put fixture design and manufacture into separate estimate lines. Operator time is harder for me to estimate because we haven't agreed how much setup the supplier will do.

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MinaBrooks0859
Replying to BenChan1066

Ask for that boundary explicitly. Setup can mean unpacked equipment or a demonstrated process, depending on who is saying it.

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BenChan1066
Replying to MinaBrooks0859

Their quote says installation assistance, with no task list. I'll ask which fixture, tooling and program tasks they own before assigning our internal hours.

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ThomasChen1147
Replying to BenChan1066

Who would take over the pilot if your colleague's usual operator is absent? On our teaching jobs the apparent saving often depended on one person being available to explain every interruption.

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MinaBrooks0859
Replying to ThomasChen1147

Include handover in the trial, yes. Otherwise you're pricing a demonstration staffed by whoever built it.

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AishaAllen0344
Replying to BenChan1066

For a first estimate, list preparation, supervised running, clearing a normal interruption through the approved procedure, and changeover as separate activities; people can estimate a task much more easily than a mysterious block called support.

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MinaBrooks0859
Replying to AishaAllen0344

And include the time spent returning the bench to manual use. The work still exists when the pilot stops.

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BenChan1066
Replying to AishaAllen0344

I've added those activities to the draft. We have one operator and one maintenance contact proposed, but neither has reviewed the hours. I won't present those numbers as agreed staffing.

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DavidBrown0954
Replying to BenChan1066

What are you comparing it against? I can run a small batch quickly if somebody else brings every part and clears the bench afterwards. Manual baseline needs the same boundaries.

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MinaBrooks0859
Replying to DavidBrown0954

Use a whole order as the comparison unit. The nicest transfer in the middle is only part of the bill.

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ThomasChen1147
Replying to DavidBrown0954

Would the operator help record that manual order before the supplier visit? It gives them a proper say in what counts as work, and you get a baseline everyone can recognise.

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BenChan1066
Replying to ThomasChen1147

That is going into the proposal. One block variant, whole-order timing, named setup tasks and a limit on staff hours. We still need the supplier's task list and my colleague's agreement before this becomes an approved pilot.

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MinaBrooks0859
Replying to BenChan1066

Include what happens when the hours run out without a convincing result. A small pilot should be allowed to end as inconclusive.

6 points

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