FR5 carton support and withdrawal using the same gap

HanaChan1057 · 12 Dec 2025, 02:48 UTC

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HanaChan1057
Our proposed FR5 layer rotates dispatch cartons across gaps under their marked bearing edges. Tooling needs those gaps for finger withdrawal. I am asking for a shared support-and-access review before accepting the pattern.

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TheoBrown0932
Replying to HanaChan1057

Show the supporting layer and pallet as well as the rotated cartons. Have packaging mark the required bearing areas on that geometry, with tooling adding the actual finger opening and withdrawal space.

23 points
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TobyAbbott0057
Replying to HanaChan1057

Are those bearing marks based on the packed carton, Hana? Our empty sample hid a stiffener ending over a gap.

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MinaAdams0163
Replying to TheoBrown0932

Compare a simpler pattern too. Ours gave better drawn support but fewer positions, and the fingers still needed checking. Non-rotated wasn't a free fix.

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JasperCarter0986
Replying to MinaAdams0163

Mina, and price the extra dispatch work if fewer positions mean more pallets. It can be a reasonable trade, but the completed-layer count won't show the person making another trip across the warehouse.

23 points
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HanaChan1057
Replying to TobyAbbott0057

Toby, the marks come from our filled dispatch sample. Mina and Jasper, a lower-count arrangement is now a candidate, with extra pallet handling included in its comparison.

11 points
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SamBrooks0855
Replying to HanaChan1057

Does that candidate change which way the labels face? We have found a readable label important when someone checks a partial load, not just at final dispatch.

22 points
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NoraAli0235
Replying to HanaChan1057

Who owns the partial-load instructions if the pattern changes?

4 points
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ChenAli0181
Replying to SamBrooks0855

Sam's label question is worth keeping separate from support. A readable label does not confirm the carton underneath is supported correctly, but an unreadable one can make a mixed or partial load harder to identify.

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MattBailey
Replying to NoraAli0235

Can the partial pallet leave and return during the job?

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MiaCarter0992
Replying to MattBailey

If it can, show that returned condition in the comparison, not only a fresh empty pallet. Otherwise the first unusual layer will get handed to the operator as an improvised finishing job.

9 points
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HanaChan1057
Replying to MattBailey

Sam, label orientation changes on the candidate. Nora, dispatch owns the instructions with the integrator. Matt, partial pallets can return; those actual states are being added to the shared review.

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HazelBennett0745
Replying to HanaChan1057

Hana, are the returned pallets still the same filled carton construction? I'd check that before applying the new support decision to old work carrying a familiar external label

13 points
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MinaAdams0163
Replying to HazelBennett0745

Hazel, exactly the awkward question. Our planning comparison had to keep old-stock handling separate rather than wave everything through under one carton name.

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HanaChan1057
Replying to HazelBennett0745

They should be the same construction, Hazel, but dispatch has not confirmed all outstanding partial loads. I have left that check open rather than extend the proposed pattern to them.

7 points
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JasperCarter0986
Replying to HanaChan1057

Then keep the current method costed for any unmatched returns, Hana. It may remain a small exception, but assuming every old pallet fits the new proposal would make the saving too generous.

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