Starting with 25: what belongs in the pilot budget?

IsaacBrown0955 · 1 May 2026, 16:30 UTC

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IsaacBrown0955
I'm pushing for Universal Robots UR5e to do tray loading with a molded mounting block in a shared production room, starting with 25. I priced the arm and gripper. Fixtures and staff time? Much vaguer. My colleague's annoyed, fairly enough. I'd like a small pilot we can both judge.

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SarahAllen0328
Replying to IsaacBrown0955

Do your observations cover the manual workflow from preparation to completion? A transfer-only baseline could omit the same activities that made the initial budget incomplete.

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IsaacBrown0955
Replying to SarahAllen0328

We watched a batch. Preparation took longer than transfer. My estimate had basically made that work disappear by wishing.

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SarahAllen0328
Replying to IsaacBrown0955

@IsaacBrown0955 Use that manual baseline to define a whole-workflow pilot. Set a spending cap, an allowance for staff effort and clear proceed-or-stop conditions together before committing to it.

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IsaacBrown0955
Replying to SarahAllen0328

Count my fixture time too? I'd enjoy it, but it's extra work.

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HanaAdams0100
Replying to IsaacBrown0955

@IsaacBrown0955 On our separate project, we included that time. The design was enjoyable, but our normal workload still needed doing. The estimate became less cheerful.

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SarahAllen0328
Replying to SarahAllen0328

Multiply the manual minutes eliminated by the labour rate for a simple saving figure, then compare that with what the pilot costs.

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IsaacBrown0955
Replying to SarahAllen0328

The manual observations have improved the proposal, but the pilot's spending and staff limits aren't agreed. We haven't committed to equipment.

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SarahAllen0328
Replying to IsaacBrown0955

You've improved the basis for discussion. Leaving equipment uncommitted while the limits are open follows from that.

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