I cannot choose the FR5 panel tool from a seal reading

EllaBaker0468 · 28 Mar 2026, 00:52 UTC

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EllaBaker0468
The access panel seals on the proposed cups. Stack separation and support through release are still untested.

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JackAllen0341
Replying to EllaBaker0468

We found a panel was fine on the cups and bowed when it reached the nest. Ask for the whole route with your actual stack and receiving fixture, including how a second sheet is detected. The vacuum reading is only one part of that comparison.

6 points
EL
EllaBaker0468
Replying to JackAllen0341

Supplier's report used one panel already separated from the stack. I've asked them to state that.

8 points
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MinaChan1120
Replying to EllaBaker0468

Can you send representative panels as a stack, including the ordinary surface and flatness variation? The sample should resemble what stores will supply, not the one panel everyone chose because it looked easiest.

6 points
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MayaAli0214
Replying to EllaBaker0468

And include the stack preparation in the workload. If someone separates every sheet first, that is a different feed option with its own handling time.

20 points
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LucaAllen0265
Replying to MayaAli0214

Maya, that might still be worth comparing. We shouldn't make automatic stack separation a requirement if manually separated presentation would leave a useful job.

12 points
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MayaAli0214
Replying to LucaAllen0265

Agreed. I meant price it honestly, not rule it out. Ella's original proposal starts with a stack, so changing the start needs to be visible.

11 points
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EllaBaker0468
Replying to MayaAli0214

Both feed options are in the comparison. Representative stack sent with the receiving-fixture details.

13 points
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JackAllen0341
Replying to EllaBaker0468

Ask them to check the released panel condition too, not only whether it appears to sit in the nest. A flexible panel can look settled while still being held out of shape.

14 points
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MinaChan1120
Replying to EllaBaker0468

What identifies a double panel in their proposed check?

21 points
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EllaBaker0468
Replying to MinaChan1120

Supplier proposes a thickness check, but has not demonstrated its single, double or uncertain indications yet.

23 points
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LucaAllen0265
Replying to EllaBaker0468

Have them show those known cases and the response to uncertainty, with the actual panel surfaces. I wouldn't choose the detector from its name alone.

15 points
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EllaBaker0468
Replying to LucaAllen0265

Stack trial produced a double pickup. The proposed check identified the known single and double samples, but one damaged sample gave an uncertain indication.

13 points
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JackAllen0341
Replying to EllaBaker0468

Uncertain may be the correct indication for that sample. What does the proposed process do with it, and was it inside your accepted incoming range?

23 points
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EllaBaker0468
Replying to JackAllen0341

Outside the agreed incoming range. It held for operator review, as specified. Support at release still leaves a corner lifted on an accepted single panel.

5 points
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MayaAli0214
Replying to EllaBaker0468

Keep that support problem open in both feed options. Manual separation might remove one task, but it will not repair the way an accepted single panel lands in the fixture.

7 points

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