Which bracket readings belong before the straightening step?

MayaBarnes0562 · 2 Jul 2025, 06:56 UTC

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MayaBarnes0562
Our FR5 proposal copies old clamped checks and final passes. There's straightening between them. What am I missing?

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AmyAdams0119
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

The released part before anybody corrects it, by the sound of it. I'm chasing a similar gap in another folder. Does your final sheet say explicitly that straightening happened first, or is that someone's recollection?

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to AmyAdams0119

Explicit on the traveller: straightened, then inspected. Clamped sheet has only the batch number.

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NoraAbbott0061
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Which drawing revision was used for each check? Matching the batch number alone will not establish that the two sheets measured the same requirement.

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AmyAbbott0032
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Check the incoming component revisions too. Our bracket review had different gussets hiding under one finished-part number. Old fixture experience gets a lot less transferable when the parts changed.

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BrunoChen1148
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

And don't assume the jig check predicts the loose part. A clamp can make a very convincing inspection aid while hiding the thing you need to measure. Which faces were they checking from?

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DanielAdams0130
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Does the old traveller identify which brackets were straightened, or was it a general instruction for the whole batch?

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to NoraAbbott0061

Bracket revision D on both sheets. Different reference faces. Traveller says whole batch corrected; no individual part IDs.

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HarishBell0663
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Who has costed that correction in the new proposal? The old traveller seems fairly clear that somebody did work there, even if nobody has measured what arrived at their bench.

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VeraBailey
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

I'd bring quality and welding together for a current-part trial, with tooling explaining the intended location. The old paperwork can guide the questions, but I'd be uncomfortable using it to approve a copied correction routine

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SaraCarter0983
Replying to HarishBell0663

And leave the bench space undecided until somebody knows whether its job survives.

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to HarishBell0663

Proposal assumes correction disappears. I've asked planning to reopen that line, not price it as zero.

8 points
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MayaChen1171
Replying to VeraBailey

Who owns the next measurement plan?

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CalebBennett0754
Replying to VeraBailey

Include the person who did the correction. They may recognise the awkward samples.

23 points
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SarahBrown0937
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

We once found that an old 'hold square' note described fit-up before welding, not an accepted finished angle, so I would have the former operator explain the sequence with the actual sheets rather than rely on those short labels.

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BrunoChen1148
Replying to CalebBennett0754

I'm wary of building the new fixture meeting around the press step. First ask what the current part drawing needs. Otherwise the correction starts dictating new clamps before anyone has understood the distortion.

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AmyAbbott0032
Replying to BrunoChen1148

The operator isn't being asked to design the fixture. They're being asked what happened. You need that answer as well as the current drawing.

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AmyAdams0119
Replying to SarahBrown0937

Sarah, did you find actual released readings on yours after that? My folder has plenty of descriptions and very little I can pair to a real bracket.

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SarahBrown0937
Replying to AmyAdams0119

Not in the sheets behind that note; identifying it as fit-up stopped us treating it as a final measurement, but it did not fill the missing released-part data.

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to CalebBennett0754

Quality owns the trial plan, welding and tooling contributing. Former operator invited. Thanks, Caleb, I'd left them off.

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HarishBell0663
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Will planning get the trial findings as well as the fixture designer? I'd like the labour and space decision to catch up with whatever the measurements say, not remain at the original optimistic version.

22 points

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