FR5 turned cartons sharing their support space with the fingers

AaronArcher0349 · 4 Jan 2026, 08:21 UTC

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AaronArcher0349
Our FR5 layer section shows the packed cartons' bearing ends above the gaps the fingers need. Packaging and tooling have separate comments. I need one arrangement that satisfies both, not another neat top view.

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MeiCarter1038
Replying to AaronArcher0349

Put the actual carton construction, supporting layer and pallet under the turned row in the shared review. Ask packaging to identify required support and tooling to show insertion and withdrawal on that same arrangement, including the first layer.

6 points
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AaronArcher0349
Replying to MeiCarter1038

The section now shows the conflict. Tooling needs a gap exactly where one turned carton's end needs support. Both reviewers agree the original drawing leaves that unanswered.

11 points
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JaneBrown0945
Replying to AaronArcher0349

Has packaging actually asked for an alternating pattern, Aaron? I've seen rotation survive three revisions because it was in the first pretty picture. If there's a stability reason, fine. If not, don't make the tooling solve a habit.

8 points
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RachelArcher0435
Replying to AaronArcher0349

And compare the work at the end of the order if a lower-count option is proposed. A simpler layer can be worthwhile, but the spare cartons and extra partial pallet won't manage themselves.

13 points
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AaronArcher0349
Replying to JaneBrown0945

Packaging wants an acceptable supported build, not rotation specifically. They have offered an all-same-direction candidate with fewer cartons. Our current packed case and remaining old-stock case have different internal supports.

8 points
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HanaChan1057
Replying to AaronArcher0349

Will the comparison cover those old-stock cases and returned partial pallets, or is the proposed scope restricted to the current case construction?

5 points
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MeiCarter1038
Replying to HanaChan1057

That scope belongs on the teaching drawing as well. I would not want the operator to discover the old-stock exception only when a carton is already waiting at the station.

17 points
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AaronArcher0349
Replying to HanaChan1057

Current construction only for the candidate. Old stock remains on the manual packing route. Dispatch is checking complete and partial orders for the reduced count before we choose it.

5 points
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JaneBrown0945
Replying to RachelArcher0435

Rachel's extra-work point can go either way. We had a lower-count arrangement make dispatch less frantic because people stopped rebuilding the awkward last layer by hand. It did use more pallet space. I'd take their actual order mix seriously, not assume fewer cartons automatically means worse work.

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AaronArcher0349
Replying to JaneBrown0945

Packaging and tooling completed the current-case check, including first-layer support and tool withdrawal. Dispatch's observed partial-order work is acceptable to us despite the lower count. We've selected that arrangement; old-stock cases stay excluded.

6 points
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HanaChan1057
Replying to AaronArcher0349

How will a returned partial be identified to that current-case arrangement? The exclusion needs to survive a pallet leaving and coming back.

1 points
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AaronArcher0349
Replying to HanaChan1057

Dispatch keeps the case construction and build record with each returned partial. Anything unidentifiable stays on the manual review route. The operator instruction includes that exception, not just the repeating layer picture.

14 points

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