Which restrained bracket check can be compared with our released acceptance?
SamAllen0333 · 27 Jul 2026, 04:45 UTC
19 replies
What did aligned actually mean in the old check: a gauge contact, measured dimension, or visual judgement?
3pointsThe sheet says gauge aligned. Final acceptance names a drawing dimension. I have not established that the gauge and inspection use the same reference surfaces.
10pointsFind the gauge drawing if it exists. Otherwise aligned can sound much more specific than the evidence deserves.
4pointsKeep the gauge revision with the part revision. Both could have changed.
9pointsAsk what the correction stage costs to perform while you trace it. Your separate allowance still needs a basis, even if the old dimensions remain incomplete.
6pointsThe gauge drawing is retained and matches the sheet revision. It is a fit-up check, using different contacts from final inspection. I cannot treat the two entries as paired dimensional readings.
7pointsThen the records don't measure movement on release in the way the shorthand suggests. They show two conditions assessed differently. What evidence actually says the first released assembly failed?
13pointsKai, Sam's opening does say failure after release. Are you questioning the failure or the possibility of calculating a change from the two checks?
22pointsThe latter, and whether the failed condition was recorded before correction. I phrased that poorly. A released failure can be real without making gauge aligned a comparable numerical starting point.
0pointsThere is a released failure note before correction, but no value against an individual assembly. We have a stage observation, not the paired readings needed to quantify the change.
9pointsThat distinction should go into the new study brief explicitly.
6pointsAnd don't let the final pass after correction become the predicted first-pass yield in the cost sheet. That would remove the very uncertainty you're trying to measure.
5pointsAgreed. The proposal now distinguishes historical final acceptance from the as-released condition. Quality is defining a measurement method for incoming, located and released states on identified current assemblies.
1pointsWill the new located measurement use the acceptance datums, or remain a process check? Either can be useful, but they need honest labels.
3pointsAnd defined supports for the released check. Merely unclamped is not a measurement method.
13pointsQuality proposes a separate process check while located and a defined drawing-based released check. They are documenting why the results cannot simply be subtracted. The trial has not taken place.
23pointsHas someone been assigned to record correction time and whether it was needed for each assembly? That's how the allowance eventually becomes evidence instead of a permanent question mark.
12pointsRetain the uncorrected reading before that work, with its identity. Otherwise the new process will produce another fine set of corrected brackets and another missing comparison.
4pointsThose records are assigned in the draft study plan. Thank you, Grace; checking the gauge drawing stopped me asking quality for a meaningless subtraction. Acceptance of the new fixture remains open pending the study.
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