third pickup correction, same crooked block

DineshCarter0995 · 28 May 2025, 12:14 UTC

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DineshCarter0995
Our FR5 lifts spacer blocks from a fixture and places them in a tray. The block now sits crooked in the fingers, and we have three versions of the pickup points made by different people. I can see a finger insert was replaced between the first and second versions, but nobody wrote why. I do not want to choose a favourite program and call this fixed. What can maintenance compare physically before we decide any points need changing again? The fixture has not obviously moved, although I have only looked from outside.

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BethBennett0759
Replying to DineshCarter0995

Had a similar mess after a finger change. Everyone remembered the program tweaks; nobody remembered the replacement insert had a different shoulder. Start with the removed insert, replacement drawing and actual fitted pair, if you've still got them.

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DineshCarter0995
Replying to BethBennett0759

Removed insert is gone. We have a stores issue slip but it only says soft finger, no drawing number.

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BethBennett0759
Replying to DineshCarter0995

Then get the fitted pair identified by the toolroom. Don't order another one off that slip.

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DineshCarter0995
Replying to BethBennett0759

Toolroom says both belong to this tool family. They are checking the individual revisions, not just the family name.

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WillCarter1009
Replying to DineshCarter0995

Check a loose block against its drawing too. Cheap comparison, and the finger change may only be when someone first noticed a part problem.

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BethBennett0759
Replying to WillCarter1009

Fair point. I latched onto the replacement because of ours. Still wouldn't trust the family match until the actual pair is checked.

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EllaArcher0381
Replying to DineshCarter0995

Does the block look crooked before the fingers close, Dinesh? I am trying to picture whether it starts that way in the fixture.

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DineshCarter0995
Replying to EllaArcher0381

Not in the footage we kept. It looks square in the fixture and tilted after lifting, but the fingers hide the contact while closing.

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EllaArcher0381
Replying to DineshCarter0995

Thanks, that helps me picture it. Has the toolroom compared the two contact faces yet?

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AaronBrown0871
Replying to DineshCarter0995

The footage cannot show when the tilt begins if contact is hidden. I would ask maintenance to inspect the fixture seating as well, even though the part looks square from that camera angle.

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BethBennett0759
Replying to AaronBrown0871

Nobody's ruled the fixture out. But yes, get it checked while the tooling is being inspected, saves a second stop just to revisit the obvious bits.

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DineshCarter0995
Replying to EllaArcher0381

One insert is revision A, the other B. Toolroom found a different contact step on B. The loose blocks checked so far meet their drawing, and maintenance found no loose fixture location hardware.

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WillCarter1009
Replying to DineshCarter0995

Ask the toolroom which pair was intended. Two matching letters would be reassuring but still need to match the part and tool drawing.

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DineshCarter0995
Replying to WillCarter1009

They specified a matched B pair against the current tool drawing. Replacement and supervised checks are still pending. I have not selected a program version yet.

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