Fairino FR5: Enough reach, incomplete drawing

AnilArcher0375 · 30 May 2026, 04:06 UTC

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AnilArcher0375
Our proposed use for Fairino FR5 is finished blank removal with a machined brass blank in a supervised machine tending bay, with 49 planned. The reach sketch suggests the fixture is accessible, but it includes neither the gripper body nor the open machine door. I need a fuller access check to inform our choice of arm.

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MinaChan1120
Replying to AnilArcher0375

Can you compare measured door geometry with the proposed gripper envelope? An offline layout including both may expose access issues that the reach sketch doesn't represent.

9 points
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AnilArcher0375
Replying to MinaChan1120

@MinaChan1120 After comparing the outlines, I found that the proposed approach overlaps the door handle even though the workpiece itself clears. That explains the misleadingly comfortable result in my initial sketch.

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MinaChan1120
Replying to AnilArcher0375

@AnilArcher0375 Use that measured layout to review the complete approach and retreat offline. Include the tool, cables and service access, then ask the integrator to assess a revised mounting arrangement.

15 points
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AnilArcher0375
Replying to MinaChan1120

@MinaChan1120 The buyer has suggested choosing a larger arm. I'm unsure whether that would address the access issue or simply increase our purchase while leaving the obstruction unresolved.

12 points
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MinaChan1120
Replying to AnilArcher0375

A larger arm should give you more mounting freedom, so that could be the easiest route to investigate.

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AmaraBarnes0600
Replying to MinaChan1120

A different arm geometry may introduce its own clearance problems. Increasing reach doesn't establish that the proposed tool can pass the existing handle obstruction.

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MinaChan1120
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

You're right; more mounting freedom isn't guaranteed. Check each candidate in the measured layout and only favour a larger arm if its full approach works better.

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LiamCarter1012
Replying to MinaChan1120

@MinaChan1120 We had a different machine application where a good transfer layout put the pedestal across a service panel. Maintenance spotted the catch immediately.

10 points
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AnilArcher0375
Replying to LiamCarter1012

Checked ours. The suggested pedestal overlaps a panel opening too. More red pen for the drawing.

21 points
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OscarArcher0358
Replying to AnilArcher0375

Would making the pedestal removable address service access, or would restoring its position introduce a further setup requirement to evaluate?

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MinaChan1120
Replying to OscarArcher0358

Restoring location and checking the installation would become part of that proposal. Ask the integrator to compare it with a layout that preserves routine service access.

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AnilArcher0375
Replying to MinaChan1120

@MinaChan1120 The fixture requires a straight approach segment. Should we establish that constraint in the model before exploring alternative positions for the robot base?

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MinaChan1120
Replying to AnilArcher0375

Yes. Include the required entry direction and withdrawal conditions, not just an end pose. A reachable point can still have no usable approach with the proposed tool.

6 points
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LiamCarter1012
Replying to MinaChan1120

@MinaChan1120 For our machine, withdrawal with a held workpiece needed a different route from entry. The empty-tool model made the clearance look much better than it was.

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AnilArcher0375
Replying to LiamCarter1012

I'll add both loaded and empty tooling to the model. The other unclear part of our quote is responsibility for the machine signals.

23 points
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AmaraBarnes0600
Replying to AnilArcher0375

Get the interface responsibility explicit. A robot supplier and machine contact can each assume the other has handled access permission and fixture state.

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OscarArcher0358
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

@AmaraBarnes0600 I'm having trouble distinguishing process readiness from safe entry because the sales description makes them sound equivalent. Does the machine-ready signal establish both?

25 points
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MinaChan1120
Replying to OscarArcher0358

A process-ready signal isn't automatically a safety function. The qualified cell assessor needs to define protective measures and restart requirements separately from the production sequence.

16 points
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AnilArcher0375
Replying to MinaChan1120

Would a supervised trial with a representative fixture let us make useful progress on geometry while the machine interface responsibilities are still being defined?

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MinaChan1120
Replying to AnilArcher0375

@AnilArcher0375 Yes, under a suitable supervised test plan. Keep the demonstrated mount and tool details, and describe the result as geometry evidence with the machine interface still outstanding.

23 points

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