Our FR10 layer puts two carton supports above gaps

GraceChen1190 · 12 Jun 2026, 07:48 UTC

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GraceChen1190
The alternating pattern fits. Two rotated cartons don't have support beneath their bearing edges. Who reviews that with tooling?

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ElliotAdams0161
Replying to GraceChen1190

Packaging and tool designer together. Show filled-carton bearing areas, not just the outside rectangle.

15points
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GraceChen1190
Replying to ElliotAdams0161

Packaging has the insert drawing. Tooling only received carton dimensions. That explains part of this.

13points
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VictorBaker0446
Replying to GraceChen1190

Make the lower layer visible beneath those bearing areas, Grace, so packaging can assess the actual spans rather than assuming every rotated carton is equally unsupported.

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ElliotAdams0161
Replying to VictorBaker0446

Include pallet-edge positions too. Different support underneath even when the carton orientation matches.

9points
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GraceChen1190
Replying to ElliotAdams0161

The edge position is worse than the middle. I've marked both for packaging.

10points
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JasperCarter0986
Replying to GraceChen1190

Our purchasing comparison once priced the densest drawing and ignored the handling needed to make it work, so I'd ask for a lower-count candidate alongside this one if dispatch is willing to consider the extra pallets.

23points
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GraceChen1190
Replying to JasperCarter0986

Dispatch will consider fewer cartons. They want the extra pallet movements costed first.

15points
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VictorBaker0446
Replying to GraceChen1190

That is a reasonable comparison, provided both candidates get the same packaging assessment; aligned rows do not come with a certificate of good behaviour.

18points
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FelixAdams0110
Replying to GraceChen1190

Who handles the incomplete pallet when an order ends, Grace? I'd hate to see the full-layer pattern finally sorted and then have the shift invent the last half-layer beside it.

19points
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GraceChen1190
Replying to FelixAdams0110

Packing lead handles short orders. We haven't put that condition into the review yet.

17points
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FelixAdams0110
Replying to GraceChen1190

Bring them in while the alternatives are still drawings, then, because a pattern that needs a whole layer every time may change the work more than losing two carton positions.

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ElliotAdams0161
Replying to GraceChen1190

Any answer from packaging on the original gaps? That's still the basic unknown.

20points
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GraceChen1190
Replying to ElliotAdams0161

Original edge position isn't acceptable to packaging. Lower-count candidate needs filled-load and tooling checks next.

8points
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JasperCarter0986
Replying to GraceChen1190

That gives dispatch a real reason to price the alternative, Grace. I'd keep short-order handling alongside those extra pallet movements so the comparison doesn't quietly assume every order fills the new pattern either.

11points

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