Am I comparing puck handlers or buying the nicer tray?

BenBrooks0805 · 27 Sept 2025, 09:44 UTC

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BenBrooks0805
For a new FR5 puck-loading comparison, one demo uses a purpose-made tray and the other our awkward workshop tray. I like the first result, but can't tell what I'm liking.

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to BenBrooks0805

What looks better: fewer misses, easier loading, or just faster movement?

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DineshBennett0734
Replying to BenBrooks0805

Price the purpose-made tray as part of that option rather than insisting every candidate inherit your old one, because a better tray can be a perfectly reasonable purchase

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BenBrooks0805
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Maya, faster movement and less attention from the demonstrator. No comparable miss totals. Dinesh, I'm open to new trays if their preparation doesn't become our new job.

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RebeccaAli0256
Replying to DineshBennett0734

I'm with Dinesh. Same input conditions for judging the arms, yes. But you're buying a working arrangement, not awarding a medal to an arm.

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to RebeccaAli0256

Rebecca, the less-attention claim still needs a look at what happened before filming.

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TobyBaker0492
Replying to BenBrooks0805

Who loaded the purpose-made tray, Ben? Could the same person show a change to the next tray in the comparison?

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DineshBennett0734
Replying to TobyBaker0492

Toby's changeover question is useful, and include empty trays coming back to preparation or the nice new tray can become quite an expensive queue

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RebeccaAli0256
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Maya, absolutely. I meant don't reject new trays merely because the demos used different ones. We still need the whole arrangement priced and tried.

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BenBrooks0805
Replying to TobyBaker0492

Toby, their technician loaded it. I've asked for replenishment and tray exchange as well as the transfer clip. Thanks for naming the changeover, that was missing from my request.

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TobyBaker0492
Replying to DineshBennett0734

On nights we once had enough trays for the demonstration and not enough while parts waited for the next operation. Does your quantity estimate include that waiting time?

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DineshBennett0734
Replying to TobyBaker0492

Exactly, Toby, size the tray pool around the actual flow and turnaround before comparing unit prices

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BenBrooks0805
Replying to DineshBennett0734

The supplier will quote a tray pool but wants our turnaround estimate. We hadn't measured it. The other supplier will also quote a dedicated tray option now.

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RebeccaAli0256
Replying to BenBrooks0805

That's turned into a different comparison, in a useful way. Just don't lose the existing-tray price while both offers acquire nicer accessories.

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to BenBrooks0805

Ben, are both also showing an interrupted transfer? Smooth runs won't tell you who gets called.

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TobyBaker0492
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Maya, I'd want the operator in that demonstration. A supplier technician can make recovery look obvious without saying what they're deciding.

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DineshBennett0734
Replying to TobyBaker0492

And give the demonstration a common start and finish, otherwise a recovery starting after someone has rearranged the tray dodges the awkward part again

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BenBrooks0805
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Recovery is in both requests, with our operator invited. No revised videos yet. The new-tray prices alone won't decide this; I'm waiting on the handling and turnaround work too.

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RebeccaAli0256
Replying to TobyBaker0492

Toby, how did you eventually count your tray pool? Did you track the trays themselves or use the waiting-job list?

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TobyBaker0492
Replying to RebeccaAli0256

We marked the trays and followed them, including the ones people had put aside. The job list missed those. Not very glamorous, but it explained why the supposedly generous spare pile kept vanishing.

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