Our FR10 finger gap steals support from the upper carton

AaronBaker0436 · 21 Jul 2025, 22:07 UTC

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AaronBaker0436
I'm reviewing an FR10 case-stacking layout. The fingers need a gap exactly under the rotated upper case's supported end. I'd like packaging and tooling to assess alternatives together, before either drawing becomes an order.

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to AaronBaker0436

What actually carries the load inside that case?

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Two end blocks in the packing insert. The case base between them isn't the intended load path. Packaging has the current filled construction available.

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AnikaChan1117
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Then use that construction in the review, not a solid box model. I'd want the supported areas shown on both layers before anyone claims the pattern works.

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Can the fingers release from a different side without losing their required contact?

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Tool supplier is checking a shorter-finger option from the other side. That may clear the gap but changes where they hold the carton, so packaging is reviewing it too.

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RosaAli0205
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Does the proposal cover orders that stop partway through a layer?

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OliverArcher0363
Replying to RosaAli0205

I'd like to know that too. Our dispatch staff don't always have enough cases to finish the pattern, and somebody still has to decide how the incomplete pallet leaves the station.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to RosaAli0205

Only full layers in the drawing. Short orders happen here, so I've added that question for packaging and dispatch. Thanks, Rosa, it was missing from the review list.

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AnikaChan1117
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Don't make the operator improvise the last layer. Whatever tool wins, incomplete loads need an agreed handling plan as much as the ideal full stack does.

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OliverArcher0363
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Who handles those short orders now, Aaron? If there's an existing manual route, it might be worth keeping while the automated scope stays narrow.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to OliverArcher0363

Dispatch packs them manually today. That route could remain, but their bench is on the footprint of one proposed robot position. So it isn't automatically available afterwards.

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to AaronBaker0436

That footprint needs comparing too. A kept manual route needs somewhere to happen.

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RosaAli0205
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Has dispatch seen the actual base outline, not just the pallet outline?

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to RosaAli0205

They have now. They prefer another base position which retains their short-order bench. Integrator is comparing that position with the alternative tool and pallet approach.

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AnikaChan1117
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Watch the moving goalposts here. Same carton construction, same layer revision, actual tool on each option. Otherwise you'll compare one complete idea with half of another.

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to AnikaChan1117

Agreed comparison uses carton C, pattern P4 and tool options T2/T3. Packaging has not approved the shorter fingers' contact yet. No purchase release.

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MayaBarnes0562
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Is P4 the version that includes the changed release gap?

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AaronBaker0436
Replying to MayaBarnes0562

Yes, P4 includes it. Previous P3 comments are archived as earlier feedback. The current support and contact questions are both with packaging.

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RosaAli0205
Replying to AaronBaker0436

And the short-order bench stays in both current option drawings?

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OliverArcher0363
Replying to AaronBaker0436

Aaron, did dispatch and packaging agree who handles an incomplete pallet if a full-order run is interrupted? Keeping planned short orders manual doesn't cover that other case.

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