Cannot accept the FR10 vacuum head from a plain carton sample

TonyBailey · 21 Sept 2025, 13:40 UTC

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TonyBailey
I unpacked the supplier's trial carton beside ours and the proposed cup positions land on print and a flap seam on our packed boxes, while their sample has a smooth plain top; what should their assessment include before I release the tooling order?

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CallumAdams0099
Replying to TonyBailey

Send representative packed cartons, with the surface differences identified. Ask them to assess the proposed contact positions through pickup, transfer and release, not only whether one cup seals.

10 points
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TonyBailey
Replying to CallumAdams0099

We have two board sources and the seam is not in exactly the same place on both, so I'll include both rather than the nicest box from stores.

9 points
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CallumAdams0099
Replying to TonyBailey

Include the packing condition as supplied. Flattened samples assembled specially for a demo can leave out the very variation you're trying to assess.

6 points
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HanaCarter0970
Replying to TonyBailey

Our carton review needed packed samples before the contact layout made sense. Photograph the proposed positions on yours first; that may expose an obvious mismatch without paying for another head.

11 points
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CallumAdams0099
Replying to HanaCarter0970

Hana's photo check is worthwhile. The supplier still needs to assess holding through the intended movement with the real load.

14 points
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TonyBailey
Replying to CallumAdams0099

Hana, photos sent with both seam positions marked, and Callum, the sample request specifies our normal filled and closed condition; supplier is reviewing the pictures before arranging the trial.

8 points
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CallumAdams0099
Replying to TonyBailey

Ask how the concept detects an inadequate grip and handles an unsuccessful pickup. That belongs in the proposal before acceptance too.

7 points
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JuliaBrown0935
Replying to TonyBailey

Will somebody have to rotate cartons to keep that seam away from the cups? Include the work in the comparison if the supplier proposes it. We can't assume the incoming orientation becomes convenient just because the demonstration needs it

13 points
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TonyBailey
Replying to JuliaBrown0935

Julia, no rotation step proposed yet, but I'll ask them to state any presentation requirement rather than leave us to discover it at the bench.

10 points
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TonyBailey
Replying to TonyBailey

Supplier says the original head layout needs reconsidering for our seams and has requested the packed samples; we are still at that stage, with no revised holding test result.

22 points
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HanaCarter0970
Replying to TonyBailey

That is worth finding before the order. Are both board sources going in the first trial?

15 points

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