the bags take longer to prepare than to pack
TobyAllen0318 · 29 Jun 2025, 20:52 UTC
17 replies
Time the preparation against packing them by hand. Include changing bag types.
15pointsThe transfer saves time, the preparation loses more, and I haven't even counted changing the guides yet.
22pointsThen stop spending until you know what problem is left to solve.
15pointsI've paused the next guide order, thanks Kai; hard to admit when I've shown everyone the good video.
24pointsThe good video still shows work you learned to do. It does not oblige production to adopt the process. Would the setup be useful for teaching, separately from the packing target?
7pointsTeaching value is real, just don't book it as a packing saving.
12pointsI'd still look at the incoming bags before abandoning the production idea. We had one awkward presentation problem disappear when the packing step before it changed, though that was a cooperative upstream team, not a clever gripper.
10pointsToby, are you changing the bag contents or only the outer size between orders?
23pointsBoth, Emma, and some orders are tiny; the bags come from different departments so I don't have one person who can standardise the lot.
25pointsThat makes my suggestion less attractive. Could one department's consistent bags give you enough use, or would switching the station for them become another job?
16pointsHow much bench space does it tie up while waiting for those bags?
4pointsAlso ask who will set it up when you are teaching elsewhere. A narrow production use can work, but only if it does not depend on you leaving another class to arrange bags.
6pointsIt uses the shared packing bench, so even a good bag type means clearing somebody else's job first; I'm leaning towards taking it off the production schedule and keeping a small teaching exercise.
16pointsI'd call that a useful result. You've found where the surrounding work costs more than the transfer saves. Will you keep the comparison with the exercise so students see that bit too?
4pointsYes, keeping the hand-packing times and the preparation footage with it; thanks Elena for the teaching suggestion, that's a use I can defend without pretending the packing trial paid off.
21pointsUse the awkward bag as well as the easy one in that exercise. Students tend to remember the successful transfer and forget the person quietly arranging everything before it.
3pointsDoes removing it from production give the packing team their whole bench back?
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