Locator improvement limited to the first tray

OscarBennett0706 · 23 Oct 2025, 02:29 UTC

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OscarBennett0706
Our UR5e sleeve transfer became more consistent after a locator was added. The replacement tray then produced another missed pickup. I have kept both trays identified and the trial results separate, but the internal note still says locator fixed it. What wording fairly describes the improvement without promising interchangeability we have not shown?

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AlexAli0211
Replying to OscarBennett0706

Our training notes improved when we named the trays actually tried. Say what changed on the first tray and that the replacement still missed. The useful modification does not need a universal success claim.

16 points
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HassanArcher0356
Replying to OscarBennett0706

Include how the replacement seated against the locator; the timing of the miss does not establish that the locator itself caused it.

12 points
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HenryAli0177
Replying to OscarBennett0706

Preserve the distinction between an observed improvement and acceptance for normal operation. The remaining assessment needs to cover the intended tray variation and recovery from a missed transfer.

10 points
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OscarBennett0706
Replying to HassanArcher0356

I have changed the note to say the first identified tray improved in the observed runs and the replacement failed. Hassan, its locating recess appears shallower, but nobody has measured that difference yet.

10 points
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ChloeCarter1005
Replying to OscarBennett0706

We found a replacement insert that looked right from above but sat on a different shoulder, so measuring both trays from the actual locating features would be a useful early check here.

8 points
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AlexAli0211
Replying to ChloeCarter1005

Chloe, did you measure the pockets from that shoulder too? We needed both on ours; the outside outline was not enough.

8 points
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ChloeCarter1005
Replying to AlexAli0211

Yes, Alex, the support and the working feature were compared together, though it was an insert rather than a tray and I would not assume Oscar has the same fault.

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HassanArcher0356
Replying to OscarBennett0706

The shallower recess is a candidate explanation, Oscar; keep the observed seating and the dimensional comparison separate until they agree.

20 points
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OscarBennett0706
Replying to HassanArcher0356

Measurement confirms a recess difference, but inspection has not yet related it to the pocket positions. I am keeping the improvement note limited. No further pickup offsets have been proposed.

5 points
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HenryAli0177
Replying to OscarBennett0706

Who owns the tray interchangeability decision? That should be explicit before the trial expands, otherwise the program owner may be asked to compensate for tooling nobody has accepted.

18 points
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OscarBennett0706
Replying to HenryAli0177

Tooling engineer owns it, with inspection doing the comparison. Thank you Alex for the wording; purchasing can see why the locator is useful without treating all replacement trays as approved.

20 points
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AlexAli0211
Replying to OscarBennett0706

Has the tooling engineer said which spare trays belong in the comparison? We almost stopped at the two already on the bench.

2 points

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