fr10 carton demo avoids our tape overlap

HenryAdams0090 · 12 Feb 2026, 15:42 UTC

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HenryAdams0090
Our filled shipping cartons put a tape overlap under the proposed cup. Demo used smooth board. I want a useful comparison before approving this FR10 tool, not another attractive lift.

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AmyChan1076
Replying to HenryAdams0090

Send identified filled cases covering the actual tape positions, print and board variation. Ask for the complete pickup, transfer and release, including any hand turning or selection before pickup. Our easiest demonstration once began after its hardest task had been done out of frame

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HenryAdams0090
Replying to AmyChan1076

Samples selected with packing. Supplier proposes turning the case to put the cup on an unprinted side. Our output orientation is fixed for the next station.

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PavelCarter0962
Replying to HenryAdams0090

Can that proposed turning be undone within a defined handling route while still meeting the receiving orientation, or does it depend on the packer doing another unpriced task?

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MeiAdams0168
Replying to HenryAdams0090

Ask for the whole proposed sequence before another trial. A side pickup may be worth considering, but the supplier needs to show how your case arrives and leaves, not just where the cup seals.

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HenryAdams0090
Replying to PavelCarter0962

Their sequence includes manual turning before pickup and again after release. Nobody included those two tasks in the original quote. We asked for them to be priced against the current packing job.

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AmyChan1076
Replying to HenryAdams0090

That makes it a different complete option to compare. Keep the original top-pick proposal open only if they can address the actual seam conditions, not as the same tool with the awkward case turned away

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HenryAdams0090
Replying to AmyChan1076

Packing's whole-order check rules out the double-turn route for our staffing. Supplier is considering another top-pick arrangement with the original case orientation. No revised tool drawing yet.

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MeiAdams0168
Replying to HenryAdams0090

Good to settle that before filming it. Has the supplier said what changes in the top-pick tool, or only that they will look at it?

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HenryAdams0090
Replying to MeiAdams0168

Only looking at it so far. Our samples are there, including the overlap extremes. The rejected manual-turn route stays in the comparison with its labour, not as a ready fallback.

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PavelCarter0962
Replying to HenryAdams0090

Did packing define which incoming variation is acceptable before selecting those extremes? The eventual tool requirement should cover normal supplied cases, not silently depend on a new screening job.

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HenryAdams0090
Replying to PavelCarter0962

Yes, cases are within packing's accepted range. We are not adding manual screening to rescue the proposal. Thanks, Mei, the sequence request exposed the two extra turns.

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