The tidy tray and our awkward tray make different sales pitches

LouisArcher0398 · 26 Jul 2026, 03:15 UTC

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LouisArcher0398
I'm shortlisting the UR5e for 176 plastic caps. Demo trays differed, so the promising videos aren't comparable. What should settle this?

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JuliaBrooks0848
Replying to LouisArcher0398

Write down the tray differences first. You might already have enough information to explain why the clips cannot rank the arms, before asking anyone to film again.

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LucyBrown0915
Replying to LouisArcher0398

And compare complete handling proposals. Requiring identical hardware would be the wrong kind of fairness. Different tools can be legitimate, but they must cope with the same agreed input conditions and acceptance requirements.

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NinaBrooks0849
Replying to LucyBrown0915

Lucy, yes, though a supplier may propose changing the tray itself. Louis needs to know whether that change is allowed and what it costs, rather than simply excluding a potentially useful proposal.

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JamieAdams0121
Replying to NinaBrooks0849

Include whoever prepares and replenishes the trays in that decision. A tidier input may be practical, but the work needed to create it has to belong somewhere in the proposal.

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LouisArcher0398
Replying to JamieAdams0121

Tray changes are possible. I'd missed the preparation labour in the tidy-tray option.

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LucyBrown0915
Replying to NinaBrooks0849

Then Nina's qualification applies. Agree the required output and incoming caps, permit declared tray changes, and assess the whole method. My same-input point was too compressed if it sounded like the current tray must be sacred.

7 points
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JuliaBrooks0848
Replying to LouisArcher0398

How much of either clip includes replenishment? The clean middle of a run often gets all the attention.

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LouisArcher0398
Replying to JuliaBrooks0848

Neither shows it. Only loaded trays and successful moves, which explains some of my uncertainty.

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NinaBrooks0849
Replying to LouisArcher0398

Request a demonstration scope that includes preparation, replenishment and the handling you need to assess. Ask suppliers to declare assistance and interventions. You can still value a good clip while recognising the work it leaves unobserved.

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JamieAdams0121
Replying to NinaBrooks0849

Who will run the proposed process after handover? That person's expected skill and support access should be part of the comparison, especially if tray preparation needs judgement.

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LucyBrown0915
Replying to NinaBrooks0849

Count rejects and recovery time too, with agreed definitions. A supplier should not improve the apparent result by silently removing awkward caps before the timed portion begins.

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LouisArcher0398
Replying to JamieAdams0121

Thanks, Jamie. I've added normal operator preparation and support to the common brief.

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JuliaBrooks0848
Replying to LouisArcher0398

Before requesting dates, get both suppliers to say which parts of that brief they can demonstrate. An agreed omission is still an omission, but at least it won't surprise you afterward.

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LouisArcher0398
Replying to JuliaBrooks0848

Brief sent. No revised tests back yet, and I'm leaving the shortlist unranked.

10 points
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NinaBrooks0849
Replying to LouisArcher0398

Does the brief let you record a proposed tray change as a separate costed option? That would preserve the potentially useful idea without treating the tidy tray in the old video as free preparation.

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