Bracket correction copied into the FR10 route twice

RosaChan1075 · 8 Feb 2026, 02:11 UTC

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RosaChan1075
I followed one bracket through our old sheets and found correction under both fabrication and inspection. The FR10 estimate counts both as work, but the notes may describe the same trip to the bench. I want to untangle that without losing the real released failure and the final pass.

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HazelChan1093
Replying to RosaChan1075

Do the two entries share the same bracket identity? I've seen inspection note a return to fabrication while fabrication recorded doing it; two entries, one piece of work.

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RosaChan1075
Replying to HazelChan1093

Same bracket ID. Inspection says returned for correction; fabrication says corrected and sent back. Both have been given a correction duration in our summary.

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SamAllen0333
Replying to RosaChan1075

Identify who observed the work behind each duration before adding them. Inspection may be recording waiting or a handoff, not another correction operation. Preserve the released measurement and its inspection support alongside the route.

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SarahBarnes0589
Replying to RosaChan1075

Are the durations original entries, or numbers the estimator added later? That changes what you can recover from the sheet itself.

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HazelChan1093
Replying to SarahBarnes0589

Sarah's question first, Rosa. A perfectly matched pair of bracket entries still cannot supply two times nobody measured.

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RosaChan1075
Replying to SarahBarnes0589

Estimator added the same remembered allowance to both. Original sheets have no duration, just the returned and completed entries. We can identify the route, not time it from these notes.

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BethChan1107
Replying to RosaChan1075

Which drawing revision and inspection support belong to the released failure and final pass?

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RosaChan1075
Replying to BethChan1107

Revision K for both, same identified inspection support. Quality checked the readings against K. Released result fails, result after the one correction passes.

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SamAllen0333
Replying to RosaChan1075

That is enough to retain the observed route without the doubled allowance. A current timing study should record active correction, waiting and repeat inspection separately, with whoever does each task identified.

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SarahBarnes0589
Replying to SamAllen0333

And use the current job for that study. Your old paired entries do not show how often the present brackets need correction.

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RosaChan1075
Replying to SarahBarnes0589

Agreed. The old example is one corrected bracket, not a batch rate. Current process owner and quality will choose the observed work, including first-time passes.

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HazelChan1093
Replying to RosaChan1075

Who is correcting the existing estimate, Rosa? Otherwise the double allowance may survive in the version purchasing already has.

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RosaChan1075
Replying to HazelChan1093

Our estimator replaced the two correction lines with one explicitly unmeasured operation and separate repeat inspection. Purchasing has that revision. No guessed duration has been retained as a convenient starting value.

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BethChan1107
Replying to RosaChan1075

Does the revised description still show the failed released check before that operation? It should not read as optional tidying after an accepted part.

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RosaChan1075
Replying to BethChan1107

Yes, Beth. Failed released check, correction, repeat inspection and final pass are in order. Thanks, Hazel, the one-trip explanation led us back to the actual technician rather than another spreadsheet total.

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RosaChan1075
Replying to RosaChan1075

And the technician confirmed one correction trip for that bracket. I've attached that explanation to the old entries so they don't get counted twice again in the next export.

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SarahBarnes0589
Replying to RosaChan1075

Useful cleanup. The missing timing remains work for the current study, but the old route no longer invents a second person doing the same correction.

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