Bracket release readings missing from the fixture proposal

VictorAllen0272 · 2 Sept 2025, 22:12 UTC

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VictorAllen0272
Our FR5 fixture proposal cites a batch of accepted brackets, but the supporting folder has clamped checks and final checks with the correction stage missing between them; I'm not signing a tooling decision from that gap.

17 replies

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HassanChan1052
Replying to VictorAllen0272

Who did the correction work on that batch? I'd ask them what actually passed through their bench before trying to extract another answer from the final spreadsheet.

21 points
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VictorAllen0272
Replying to HassanChan1052

Two fabricators, one still here; he remembers checking every piece and correcting some, but not how many.

11 points
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LuisAdams0173
Replying to VictorAllen0272

Get him beside the old fixture if it's still around. Ours had a little stop added that never made the drawing, and the only person who knew why was the one everybody thought was just operating it.

17 points
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AmyBaker0467
Replying to LuisAdams0173

I'd still want current samples rather than a room agreeing what they remember; useful background, but you can't get the missing released readings back by interviewing people.

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NoahBennett0716
Replying to AmyBaker0467

Both are worth doing. The current trial needs a defined setup, and the old operator may explain a contact or correction you would otherwise copy without understanding. I wouldn't discard that knowledge because it isn't a measurement.

7 points
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LiamArcher0403
Replying to LuisAdams0173

Is the old fixture actually available?

4 points
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GraceAdams0146
Replying to VictorAllen0272

And has anyone already ordered its replacement? Worth making this gap visible to purchasing before the proposal turns into a delivery date.

13 points
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VictorAllen0272
Replying to LiamArcher0403

Liam, old fixture is still on a rack; Grace, no replacement order, and purchasing has the hold noted. Amy, current samples are requested, but we need the review scope agreed first.

6 points
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AlexBennett0733
Replying to VictorAllen0272

Did the final inspection use the same support points as the clamped check? The dimensions can look directly comparable on a sheet while the part is being held very differently.

12 points
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RaviArcher0389
Replying to VictorAllen0272

Keep each bracket's readings linked through the stages when you do the new trial, or you'll end up with three tidy averages and the same missing before-and-after answer.

14 points
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JaneBennett0771
Replying to RaviArcher0389

Include any correction between those readings as an identified operation. Otherwise a later reader may attribute its result to the welding fixture alone, which is the ambiguity you have now.

4 points
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EmmaAdams0115
Replying to JaneBennett0771

I would give the person writing operator instructions those stages too. Our handover once jumped straight from weld complete to accepted assembly. Nobody reading it could see the separate inspection decision, so every doubtful part became a call to the programmer.

17 points
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VictorAllen0272
Replying to AlexBennett0733

Alex, different support points, confirmed with inspection; the clamped check was fit-up only. Ravi and Jane, new trial request now follows piece identities through release, correction if needed, and final acceptance.

13 points
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HassanChan1052
Replying to VictorAllen0272

Does the old fixture have an undocumented change like Luis described, or is yours still as drawn?

23 points
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LuisAdams0173
Replying to AmyBaker0467

Amy, I'm with you on needing new measurements. I just don't want the trial built around a stop nobody has asked about. That was the expensive bit on ours.

10 points
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VictorAllen0272
Replying to HassanChan1052

Hassan, there is an extra side stop, and the fabricator is reviewing it with the designer; Emma, trainer gets the full route, not just the final ticks. Still no current trial result.

15 points
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AmyBaker0467
Replying to LuisAdams0173

Fair enough, Luis, that extra stop is exactly why I wouldn't call the old drawing the setup; Victor, glad you've got the designer looking at the actual thing.

7 points

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