One acknowledgement, two possible FR5 attempts
KaiBell0628 · 20 May 2025, 08:30 UTC
15 replies
Is there an attempt identifier beyond that job label? Start with what connects a request to its response. Sorting the three logs by their printed times will not help if the clocks differ.
6pointsOnly the label. Local counter resets too.
-2pointsThen show both possible matches rather than picking the nearer timestamp. What order can you establish within each individual source?
7pointsWere any clock offsets measured during the incident? Current settings won't tell you exactly what the clocks read before the restart. Keep that question separate from the missing attempt identity.
-8pointsNo offsets measured then. We only have the printed times.
25pointsPython shows timeout, restart, then receipt. Can't tell whether the response belongs to the earlier send.
12pointsMark that receipt as unmatched in the incident account. Don't let the report quietly award it to the retry because it appears after the restart.
21pointsI've seen 'retry passed' get written on a shift board while the engineer was still deciding which result was which. Kai, what have the operators been told about this bracket?
25pointsThat needs the quality owner's decision while the attempt remains uncertain. The software history should not silently decide the bracket's status from this unmatched response.
10pointsQuality has it on hold. Shift note now says uncertain result, not retry passed.
8pointsFor future attempts, ask the interface owner about identities that survive restarts and are echoed in the response. The local counter you have cannot make that link reliably.
25pointsAnd agree the clock recording scheme for future diagnostics. Better timestamps would help the timeline, but you will still need that request-response identity to distinguish delayed replies.
-2pointsBoth changes proposed. Old incident stays unmatched; no attempt magically completed by sorting the spreadsheet.
-2pointsThanks for asking about the shift note, Leah. That was getting ahead of the evidence.
13pointsTry the revised wording on someone who wasn't in this discussion. Ask what they'd do with the bracket. You'll find out whether 'uncertain' actually leads them to the right person.
24pointsDiscussion closed
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