One acknowledgement, two possible FR5 attempts

KaiBell0628 · 20 May 2025, 08:30 UTC

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KaiBell0628
Our FR5 logs disagree on time, and a restart reused the job label. Can't tell which attempt got acknowledged.

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AnnaBaker0503
Replying to KaiBell0628

Is there an attempt identifier beyond that job label? Start with what connects a request to its response. Sorting the three logs by their printed times will not help if the clocks differ.

6 points
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KaiBell0628
Replying to AnnaBaker0503

Only the label. Local counter resets too.

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AnnaBaker0503
Replying to KaiBell0628

Then show both possible matches rather than picking the nearer timestamp. What order can you establish within each individual source?

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AishaBarnes0605
Replying to KaiBell0628

Were any clock offsets measured during the incident? Current settings won't tell you exactly what the clocks read before the restart. Keep that question separate from the missing attempt identity.

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KaiBell0628
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

No offsets measured then. We only have the printed times.

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KaiBell0628
Replying to AnnaBaker0503

Python shows timeout, restart, then receipt. Can't tell whether the response belongs to the earlier send.

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RaviAdams0128
Replying to KaiBell0628

Mark that receipt as unmatched in the incident account. Don't let the report quietly award it to the retry because it appears after the restart.

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LeahAli0234
Replying to KaiBell0628

I've seen 'retry passed' get written on a shift board while the engineer was still deciding which result was which. Kai, what have the operators been told about this bracket?

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AnnaBaker0503
Replying to LeahAli0234

That needs the quality owner's decision while the attempt remains uncertain. The software history should not silently decide the bracket's status from this unmatched response.

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KaiBell0628
Replying to LeahAli0234

Quality has it on hold. Shift note now says uncertain result, not retry passed.

8 points
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AnnaBaker0503
Replying to KaiBell0628

For future attempts, ask the interface owner about identities that survive restarts and are echoed in the response. The local counter you have cannot make that link reliably.

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AishaBarnes0605
Replying to AnnaBaker0503

And agree the clock recording scheme for future diagnostics. Better timestamps would help the timeline, but you will still need that request-response identity to distinguish delayed replies.

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KaiBell0628
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

Both changes proposed. Old incident stays unmatched; no attempt magically completed by sorting the spreadsheet.

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KaiBell0628
Replying to LeahAli0234

Thanks for asking about the shift note, Leah. That was getting ahead of the evidence.

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LeahAli0234
Replying to KaiBell0628

Try the revised wording on someone who wasn't in this discussion. Ask what they'd do with the bracket. You'll find out whether 'uncertain' actually leads them to the right person.

24 points

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