We need a separate FR10 loading review for short steel blanks. The previous cell study cannot cover this mill: different opening, gripper and fixture depth. The latest sketch again shows a reachable blank but leaves out the open door and complete tool.
Another mill, another door missing from the loading sketch
ElliotBrown0944 · 8 May 2025, 17:00 UTC
19 replies
Replying to ElliotBrown0944
Is the tool already selected, or are its dimensions still provisional? That determines what information the designer can use for the first complete layout.
13pointsReplying to NadiaCarter0987
Selected gripper body. Fingers still being designed. We know their required contact on the blank but not the final outside shape.
7pointsReplying to ElliotBrown0944
Ask the toolmaker for an agreed provisional envelope, including the open state. Have the reviewer list the dimensions that still require confirmation before arm selection.
23pointsReplying to NadiaCarter0987
Toolmaker will do that. The machine owner is also measuring the actual opening; its handle differs from the catalogue drawing.
16pointsReplying to ElliotBrown0944
Where will the base stand relative to the fixture?
7pointsReplying to ElliotBrown0944
I would pause the base choice until the fingers are further along, because long fingers designed around an early base position can leave you paying to rescue that first layout. Is there a reason the arm has to be selected now?
7pointsReplying to WillBennett0748
Purchasing wants to reserve workshop installation time. No technical reason to fix the base today. We can make the reservation conditional on the access review.
13pointsReplying to ElliotBrown0944
Do that. A calendar booking shouldn't design the tool.
16pointsReplying to NadiaCarter0987
Agreed. Proposed base is left of the opening, with a second position farther out. Both remain candidates, and the tooling envelope is now attached to them.
20pointsReplying to ElliotBrown0944
Can the operator still get the fixture out from the left?
9pointsReplying to ElliotBrown0944
Check the part withdrawal through the door as well as its final loaded position. Does the planned sequence turn the steel blank inside the machine?
14pointsReplying to NadiaCarter0987
No internal turn in this sequence. The setter wants the farther base to preserve fixture removal space. Integrator is studying that candidate first.
8pointsReplying to ElliotBrown0944
Does the drawing include any fixed fittings on the inside face of the open door? Those can be missed when only the door thickness is shown.
7pointsReplying to NadiaCarter0987
Our door had a hose clip exactly where the empty drawing said clear.
19pointsReplying to NadiaCarter0987
The measured layout includes the handle and internal hose bracket. Thanks for raising those; the first catalogue outline showed neither.
21pointsReplying to ElliotBrown0944
How much of the finger envelope is now fixed? I am still wary of an arm decision based on a generous-looking drawing that the final tool cannot satisfy.
5pointsReplying to ElliotBrown0944
And did the setter actually try the fixture trolley at that farther spot?
6pointsReplying to JoBrown0940
Trolley access checked on the floor marking. Finger contact geometry is fixed; hose routing is not. The review therefore remains provisional and purchasing has no final arm approval.
16pointsReplying to ElliotBrown0944
Fair enough. I'd like to hear how the final tool fits when the routing is settled.
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