Another mill, another door missing from the loading sketch

ElliotBrown0944 · 8 May 2025, 17:00 UTC

Closed
EL
ElliotBrown0944
We need a separate FR10 loading review for short steel blanks. The previous cell study cannot cover this mill: different opening, gripper and fixture depth. The latest sketch again shows a reachable blank but leaves out the open door and complete tool.

19 replies

NA
NadiaCarter0987
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Is the tool already selected, or are its dimensions still provisional? That determines what information the designer can use for the first complete layout.

13 points
EL
ElliotBrown0944
Replying to NadiaCarter0987

Selected gripper body. Fingers still being designed. We know their required contact on the blank but not the final outside shape.

7 points
NA
NadiaCarter0987
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Ask the toolmaker for an agreed provisional envelope, including the open state. Have the reviewer list the dimensions that still require confirmation before arm selection.

23 points
EL
ElliotBrown0944
Replying to NadiaCarter0987

Toolmaker will do that. The machine owner is also measuring the actual opening; its handle differs from the catalogue drawing.

16 points
NA
NadiaCarter0987
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Where will the base stand relative to the fixture?

7 points
WI
WillBennett0748
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

I would pause the base choice until the fingers are further along, because long fingers designed around an early base position can leave you paying to rescue that first layout. Is there a reason the arm has to be selected now?

7 points
EL
ElliotBrown0944
Replying to WillBennett0748

Purchasing wants to reserve workshop installation time. No technical reason to fix the base today. We can make the reservation conditional on the access review.

13 points
PR
PriyaBarnes0568
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Do that. A calendar booking shouldn't design the tool.

16 points
EL
ElliotBrown0944
Replying to NadiaCarter0987

Agreed. Proposed base is left of the opening, with a second position farther out. Both remain candidates, and the tooling envelope is now attached to them.

20 points
JO
JoBrown0940
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Can the operator still get the fixture out from the left?

9 points
NA
NadiaCarter0987
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Check the part withdrawal through the door as well as its final loaded position. Does the planned sequence turn the steel blank inside the machine?

14 points
EL
ElliotBrown0944
Replying to NadiaCarter0987

No internal turn in this sequence. The setter wants the farther base to preserve fixture removal space. Integrator is studying that candidate first.

8 points
NA
NadiaCarter0987
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Does the drawing include any fixed fittings on the inside face of the open door? Those can be missed when only the door thickness is shown.

7 points
PR
PriyaBarnes0568
Replying to NadiaCarter0987

Our door had a hose clip exactly where the empty drawing said clear.

19 points
EL
ElliotBrown0944
Replying to NadiaCarter0987

The measured layout includes the handle and internal hose bracket. Thanks for raising those; the first catalogue outline showed neither.

21 points
WI
WillBennett0748
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

How much of the finger envelope is now fixed? I am still wary of an arm decision based on a generous-looking drawing that the final tool cannot satisfy.

5 points
JO
JoBrown0940
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

And did the setter actually try the fixture trolley at that farther spot?

6 points
EL
ElliotBrown0944
Replying to JoBrown0940

Trolley access checked on the floor marking. Finger contact geometry is fixed; hose routing is not. The review therefore remains provisional and purchasing has no final arm approval.

16 points
WI
WillBennett0748
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Fair enough. I'd like to hear how the final tool fits when the routing is settled.

21 points

Discussion closed

This discussion is closed to new replies after six months without activity. Last activity: .